aestheticles: n. The little-known source of aesthetic reactions. If your whole body feels like going into a fetal position or otherwise double over from the pain of experiencing something exceptionally ugly and inelegant, such as C++, it's because your aestheticles got creamed. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/4356934aa0d7c2fe Erik Naggum Elegance is necessarily unnatural, only achieveable at great expense. If you just do something, it won't be elegant, but if you do it and then see what might be more elegant, and do it again, you might, after an unknown number of iterations, get something that is very elegant. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/4bda6a98e5cf0bce Erik Naggum Have you considered the option of getting the joke? If not, try it now and redeem your soul. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/e8006d8ddc903c45 Erik Naggum I may be biased, but I tend to find a much lower tendency among female programmers to be dishonest about their skills, and thus do not say they know C++ when they are smart enough to realize that that would be a lie for all but perhaps 5 people on this planet. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/f0f59b2b18124881 Erik Naggum Languages shape the way we think, or don't. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/baafc407b4bd66f5 Erik Naggum Let's just hope that all the world is run by Bill Gates before the Perl hackers can destroy it. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.emacs/msg/9ab7f3307363849a Erik Naggum Rewarding incompetence and ignorance increases the number of incompetent programmers. Designing programming languages and tools so incompetent programmers can feel better about themselves is not the way to go. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.functional/msg/b69c767370ee7c43 Erik Naggum Some people are little more than herd animals, flocking together whenever the world becomes uncomfortable for any reason, seeking the comfort of those who agree with them, do not contradict them, and take care of their emotions. I am not one of those people. If I had a motto, it would probably be Herd thither, me hither. http://ungregarious.org/2004/ Erik Naggum Structure is nothing if it is all you got. Skeletons spook people if they try to walk around on their own. I really wonder why XML does not. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/7d410e0ae791d1cb Erik Naggum The clumsiness of people who have to engage their brain at every step is unbearably painful to watch, at least to me, and that's what the novice-friendly software makes people do, because there's no elegance in them, it's just a mass of features to be learned by rote. However, this suits people a hell of a lot better than setting out at age 6 to become a great ballet dancer and achieving their goal 20 years later after every tendon and muscle and joint has been asked to perform just a little bit more than nature ever intended over and over and over again. To most people, this is insanity. But in reality, it's art, and it's the art in what we do that makes us human. http://groups.google.no/group/comp.emacs/msg/821a0f04bab91864 Erik Naggum Unformed people delight in the gaudy and in novelty. Cooked people delight in the ordinary. Erik Naggum You can drag any rat out of the sewer and teach it to get some work done in Perl, but you cannot teach it serious programming. http://bc.tech.coop/blog/071226.html Erik Naggum