Anyone who can't laugh at himself is not taking life seriously enough. Larry Wall str->str_pok |= SP_FBM; /* deep magic */s = (unsigned char*)(str->str_ptr); /* deeper magic */ Larry Wall in util.c from the perl source code Larry Wall Things that are different should look different. Larry Wall True greatness is measured by how much freedom you give to others, not by how much you can coerce others to do what you want. Larry Wall